From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20071230122217.3CA84830B9A@snark.thyrsus.com> <20071230172259.GB6572@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199055554 17880 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2007 22:59:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@snark.thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 30 23:59:28 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J977t-0002hC-Q2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:59:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J977Y-0003CM-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:59:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J976l-0002Lf-9Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J976g-0002FH-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J976g-0002F2-OH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J976g-0007J3-Dg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J976f-0003tt-Ue; Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:58:09 -0500 In-reply-to: <20071230172259.GB6572@thyrsus.com> (esr@thyrsus.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:85710 Archived-At: > I usually don't have an internet connection, so I could not possibly > use the methods you recommend. I cannot communicate with people by > IRC. I cannot get information from a web interface. Er...perhaps you should fix these problems, rather than allowing them to limit and damage Emacs and every other project you are involved in. I will not turn my life upside down to follow your recommendations for development tools.