From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: saveplace: don't ask for coding system Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:55:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <198E2B70-D060-41D8-8BC2-A9614C2729CC@inf.ed.ac.uk> <06675819-C4A8-4D78-AD59-0A2AF296AC7E@inf.ed.ac.uk> <87ve7gn5zc.fsf@red-bean.com> <0CD94276-1D9F-42BB-A6F7-A90ED9E06817@inf.ed.ac.uk> <87bq98n0ka.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fxykjb6y.fsf@red-bean.com> <87hcizihwh.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196787446 488 80.91.229.12 (4 Dec 2007 16:57:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, dreitter@inf.ed.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 04 17:57:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Izb5I-0006Br-7B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:57:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izb51-00079G-Qe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:57:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Izb3i-0005vP-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:55:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Izb3g-0005tU-L8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:55:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Izb3g-0005tH-90 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:55:44 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Izb3f-0005js-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:55:44 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Izb3d-00049v-8Q; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 11:55:41 -0500 In-reply-to: <87hcizihwh.fsf@red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:32:14 -0800) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84657 Archived-At: The disadvantage is that emacs-mule is Emacs-specific. It would be better if the file were readable by other editors and viewers -- although it's only parsed by Emacs (as far as I know), it *is* human-readable, and we should take that into account when choosing an encoding. I agree that would be an advantage, but the first priority has to be to make the feature _work_ in all cases. I've always thought of emacs-mule as a purely internal encoding system. If we're starting to push it out to files, It was never supposed to be "purely internal". There is nothing wrong with that.