From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving X selection? Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20071012105022.6c8b174a@tweety> <874pgtfw1y.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <4713067D.2060504@swipnet.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1192476960 24294 80.91.229.12 (15 Oct 2007 19:36:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tom.horsley@ccur.com, jeremy@jeremyms.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 15 21:35:50 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IhUiX-0007rK-Sa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:31:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhUiR-00083A-03 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IhUiN-0007zu-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IhUiK-0007vI-RW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IhUiK-0007uj-IV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhUiK-0003rh-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IhUiH-0002Iw-VK; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:30:49 -0400 In-reply-to: <4713067D.2060504@swipnet.se> (message from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= on Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:19:41 +0200) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80948 Archived-At: The change, if any, I'd like is that C-y and M-w operates on CLIPBOARD, and that PRIMARY is left to mouse operations. ISTR that there are environments where it is bad to use the clipboard at all. I don't remember what they are -- are there people that don't use the clipboard at all? Also, the basic idea seems mistaken. When I select something in another program, I select it with the mouse because that's the only way. That doesn't mean I should only be able to grab it in Emacs with the mouse. C-y should work.