From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:35:29 +0900 Message-ID: References: <86ps064mi0.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190766979 2069 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2007 00:36:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 26 02:36:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IaKst-0003Lo-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:36:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaKsq-0008SO-ED for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaKsn-0008QS-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:36:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaKsl-0008Of-Io for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaKsl-0008OS-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IaKsX-0007xA-T2; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:35:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id l8Q0ZZjC026013; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:35:35 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id l8Q0ZYTx025577; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:35:35 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id l8Q0ZTqd011072; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:35:29 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IaKsD-0003If-Q3; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:35:29 +0900 In-reply-to: <86ps064mi0.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:40:23 +0200) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79880 Archived-At: In article <86ps064mi0.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz>, David Kastrup writes: > "Drew Adams" writes: >>> ! " For this window of the frame: >>> ! mouse-1: select (drag to resize), mouse-2: maximize, >>> mouse-3: vanish") >>> >>> "delete" would be better than "vanish". >>> >>> Aside from that, do people like it? > > > > Not I. There is rarely any need for a tooltip to use more than one > > line. And this case certainly doesn't require it. > Compare the one-line and the two-line version. The latter version is > quite narrower, and the _length_, not the height of the tooltip is > more disturbing here, in my opinion. I agree, and I even more like three lines tooltip as this for this case: mouse-1: select (drag to resize) mouse-2: maximize mouse-3: delete But, for echo area, I prefer one line tooltip. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org