From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Toolbar mode on/off Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:57:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <85ve9zhfin.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190743289 24306 80.91.229.12 (25 Sep 2007 18:01:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 25 20:01:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IaEiX-00013g-Q4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:01:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaEiU-0007ID-VJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:01:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaEgA-0004ne-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:58:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaEg9-0004md-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:58:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaEg8-0004mG-TH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IaEg8-0001Fl-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:58:36 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IaEfS-0007gT-Ka; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:57:54 -0400 In-reply-to: <85ve9zhfin.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:20:32 +0200) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79827 Archived-At: at the current point of time, enabling the toolbar and disabling it again is not a noop, but rather causes shrinking. That seems like bug, if it happens. That's ugly. On the other side, Emacs should not increase its frame size beyond the given initial frame size. I don't agree. If the initial frame size was specified in lines, and the toolbar was off, turning it on should increase the frame size. Of course, it would be nicer (and simpler altogether) if Emacs did not change its frame pixel size at all when turning toolbar (or menubar or whatever) on and off. That would be incorrect if the size of the text area has been specified in lines.