From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:05:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871wctziwv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <87lkb1z0vg.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> <858x71w5f5.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <4zvea54019.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87myvgrivy.fsf@jurta.org> <86r6ksxz9n.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87hclmlq2x.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190560047 20918 80.91.229.12 (23 Sep 2007 15:07:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:07:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 23 17:07:21 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IZT3G-0005eO-Rz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:07:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZT3E-0003qc-Cz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZT1n-0002vd-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:05:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IZT1m-0002v1-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:05:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IZT1l-0002ut-RD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:05:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZT1l-0000kC-FS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:05:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IZT18-0002KV-3u; Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:05:06 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:40:02 +0200) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79582 Archived-At: What about the demonstration of concept in the patch below? I think popping the splash screen in a separate frame is superior to dividing the initial frame, and doing so makes all kinds of complications with "concise" splash screen and whether splash should be in upper or lower window, a non-issue. IIRC, Richard agreed to the idea of a separate frame. Can you set it up conditionally on a variable, whose default is nil, and then install it? That way we can take a look at both options.