From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: can't set both mode-line color and default frame font? Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ejhcmgp2.fsf@baldur.tsdh.de> <200709062116.l86LGWnO000262@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <46E58B34.9070904@swipnet.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190068059 14128 80.91.229.12 (17 Sep 2007 22:27:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 00:27:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXP40-0001YE-Qa for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:27:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP3z-0004dO-Ff for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:27:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP1n-00033V-W3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP1n-00033C-EX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXP1n-000331-1O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXP1m-0000Ng-HJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:25:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXP1G-0003s4-B4; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:24:42 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:00:35 -0400) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79139 Archived-At: Why should X resources take precedence over user face customizations? I did not distinguish enough cases. I was thinking of face customizations saved in .emacs. It makes sense for X resources which you set up in a session to take precedence over those, because the latter are semipermanent. However, X resources can also be meant as semipermanent, and user face customization can be done within a session. Thus, either ordering can be wrong. It seems swapping the two would make a lot more sense (by removing the inconsistency being discussed and by giving precedence by customization made "the Emacs way" over customizations made in some more system-wide style, as is usually the tradition in Emacs). It is starting to seem like the best course of action.