From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:20:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <18155.45363.116982.273374@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18156.10939.330774.644835@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189988588 17200 80.91.229.12 (17 Sep 2007 00:23:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 00:23:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, wilde@sha-bang.de, eliz@gnu.org, hannes@saeurebad.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: mathias@mnet-mail.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 17 02:23:04 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IX4OF-0006Vr-L3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 02:23:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IX4OE-0007hU-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:23:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IX4Mb-0006mM-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IX4Ma-0006lu-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IX4Ma-0006lp-B4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IX4Ma-0002QJ-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:21:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IX4M3-0006q0-9i; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:20:47 -0400 In-reply-to: <18156.10939.330774.644835@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (message from Mathias Megyei on Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:55:55 +0200) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79059 Archived-At: > The same can be accomplished by C-x C-f from inside a running Emacs. Sigh. We're working on different projects. Each project has its own environment. We have to start Emacs in the right project environment in order to have write access to the project's data. (In some cases we need to start Emacs in the right project environment even for read access.) That is very strange. Could you explain? It ought to be possible to use the same Emacs for multiple projects, and if it is not, we should try to do something about that. The workflow you're proposing would be in this case: - submit Emacs job - wait several seconds - C-x C-f FILE - wait longer No, I'm proposing that you always have an Emacs running, so when you want to use it you can connect to it. I am surprised by the clever uses that a few of you have found for file name args, but that isn't really relevant to the issue. You're an experienced user, and you have seen the info in the splash screen. If you don't want it to appear, turn it off.