From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Folding emacsclient into emacs
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:07:01 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IWc2n-0007Xd-Uc@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <857imscvzn.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:56:28 +0200)
We certainly are. If we create behavior _particularly_ for the case
where a user's habit does not match the prescription (namely when he
dares starting Emacs with a file name) that we know to be annoying in
this case, then we _are_ punishing his habits quite deliberately.
We are deliberately making sure that those people too will see the
splash screen.
And
the "it's for his own good" excuse
We don't say it is for his own good. That must be a misunderstanding.
does not fly when alternatives for
bringing the same information across are not even considered because
"it's his own fault to start Emacs in the wrong way".
I never said it was his "fault".
You seem to be distorting my words to make me look bad. It is not
much use to discuss the matter with you if you do that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-09-15 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 295+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-09 13:56 New start up splash screen annoyance Sascha Wilde
2007-09-09 14:40 ` Leo
2007-09-09 17:32 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-09 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 21:20 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-09 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 17:00 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 18:19 ` Leo
2007-09-11 20:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 21:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 17:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 20:31 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 20:57 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 2:48 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 5:44 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs David Kastrup
2007-09-12 5:57 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 7:06 ` dhruva
2007-09-12 7:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 9:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 11:36 ` Michael Albinus
2007-09-13 8:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-12 7:17 ` Tramp (was: Folding emacsclient into emacs) Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 8:03 ` Tramp David Kastrup
2007-09-12 8:17 ` Tramp Michael Albinus
2007-09-12 20:20 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs Tom Tromey
2007-09-12 20:48 ` Leo
2007-09-13 6:10 ` Jan Djärv
2007-09-12 11:17 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 11:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 11:37 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-12 15:08 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs Bill Wohler
2007-09-12 15:15 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 23:36 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 18:52 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Richard Stallman
2007-09-12 19:08 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs David Kastrup
2007-09-13 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 7:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 7:59 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 9:04 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-13 11:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-14 7:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 8:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-15 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 5:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-15 18:07 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2007-09-16 4:08 ` dhruva
2007-09-16 7:32 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-16 10:57 ` dhruva
2007-09-16 11:11 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-16 11:27 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-19 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 0:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 1:24 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 8:50 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 18:34 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-21 12:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-12 16:34 ` Folding emacsclient into emacs (was: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Davis Herring
2007-09-12 7:02 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-12 14:07 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-12 9:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2007-09-12 12:36 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-12 18:52 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-13 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 8:21 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13 8:24 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-13 8:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-13 8:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 7:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 11:12 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-14 18:54 ` Romain Francoise
2007-09-13 23:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-14 6:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 18:43 ` Romain Francoise
2007-09-14 20:15 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-14 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-14 21:38 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-15 14:48 ` Michael Albinus
2007-09-15 21:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-16 5:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-15 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 8:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 8:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-16 5:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-16 7:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-17 0:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-17 5:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-17 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 5:39 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 9:30 ` Leo
2007-09-18 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 15:00 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-18 15:34 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 16:51 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-19 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 5:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 16:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 13:52 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-19 14:10 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-19 16:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-18 20:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-18 22:17 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-09-18 19:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 21:01 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 22:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-19 15:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-20 0:24 ` Leo
2007-09-21 12:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 11:16 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-20 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-20 15:30 ` dhruva
2007-09-20 15:39 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-20 15:52 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 15:56 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 15:49 ` Bastien
2007-09-21 16:21 ` Bastien
2007-09-21 17:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-21 18:01 ` Sean Sieger
2007-09-21 19:38 ` Bastien
2007-09-21 17:46 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-22 11:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 17:45 ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-20 18:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-20 19:12 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 19:19 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 20:13 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 20:22 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-20 23:57 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-21 7:18 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-21 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 14:11 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:52 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-22 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-22 20:03 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 20:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-22 23:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-23 0:33 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-09-23 7:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:20 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24 22:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 17:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 18:40 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 18:59 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 19:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 19:45 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 0:35 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-09-26 1:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-26 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-26 14:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-26 15:18 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 21:56 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-26 15:10 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 18:47 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-09-25 19:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 20:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 22:52 ` David Reitter
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-24 18:37 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:14 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 17:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 18:38 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-25 19:37 ` David Reitter
2007-09-25 21:03 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 7:59 ` David Reitter
2007-09-26 14:59 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 16:03 ` David Reitter
2007-09-26 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-26 16:10 ` echo area clicks: *Messages* David Reitter
2007-09-26 16:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 20:40 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Robert J. Chassell
2007-09-25 17:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 18:18 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-25 5:01 ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-25 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 14:06 ` Didier Verna
2007-09-23 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 19:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-23 20:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 1:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24 2:00 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 20:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 16:59 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:25 ` Didier Verna
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 15:46 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-23 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-26 7:03 ` Didier Verna
2007-09-26 16:29 ` mode line [X] Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 13:46 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Didier Verna
2007-09-22 20:01 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 4:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-23 7:50 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-23 11:22 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 22:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-09-24 6:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-22 20:07 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:15 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-22 22:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 15:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 20:17 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24 18:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 9:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-20 20:23 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-09-20 19:28 ` Manoj Srivastava
2007-09-21 22:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-22 14:12 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 9:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 11:22 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 21:55 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 23:55 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-25 10:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 20:28 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-21 17:37 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-22 11:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-19 14:59 ` Bill Wohler
2007-09-20 16:34 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 8:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-09-16 9:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2007-09-17 22:03 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-17 22:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-18 5:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-18 5:43 ` dhruva
2007-09-15 10:17 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-15 10:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-15 18:55 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-15 22:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-17 0:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-18 21:20 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-19 15:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-15 18:57 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-16 4:41 ` tomas
2007-09-16 20:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-16 22:12 ` Mathias Megyei
2007-09-17 4:04 ` tomas
2007-09-16 5:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-17 22:08 ` Davis Herring
2007-09-13 7:52 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-09-13 8:03 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-14 7:05 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-14 7:51 ` Jason Rumney
2007-09-14 8:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-10 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 19:09 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 22:07 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 23:10 ` Leo
2007-09-10 23:19 ` Chong Yidong
2007-09-10 23:24 ` Leo
2007-09-12 0:40 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-14 8:11 ` Glenn Morris
2007-09-09 21:27 ` Jason Rumney
2007-09-09 21:44 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-10 1:13 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-09 23:48 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-03 20:18 ` KingBolete
2007-10-04 17:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-08 4:16 ` tomas
2007-10-08 19:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-09 20:03 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 21:27 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-10 22:36 ` Pure space overflow in Emacs 22 (was: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance...) Sven Joachim
2007-11-10 22:43 ` Pure space overflow in Emacs 22 Juri Linkov
2007-10-09 1:14 ` New start up splash screen annoyance Richard Stallman
2007-10-09 6:39 ` tomas
2007-10-26 5:21 ` tomas
2007-09-09 23:54 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-10 2:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-10 5:19 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-11 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-10 23:55 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-11 0:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-11 5:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-12 8:45 ` Richard Stallman
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