From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:53:03 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189450126 4127 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2007 18:48:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 11 04:48:33 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IUu1R-00005E-5n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:54:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUmX4-00061F-Ql for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:54:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUmVt-0004qc-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:53:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUmVr-0004nQ-P0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:53:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUmVr-0004nB-K1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUmVr-00072X-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:53:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUmVT-0004cq-NU; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:53:03 -0400 In-reply-to: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:20:17 -0400) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78474 Archived-At: The way other programs handle this is to (1) display the splash screen in a small, floating X window, (2) provide a check box on the splash screen saying "Display splash screen on startup" or something similar, and (3) a prominent button saying "OK" or similar to dismiss the splash screen. There is no room in a small floating window for the info we want to present in the splash screen. As for the box that says "Display splash screen on startup", we could do something like that. I agreed to reinstallation of the "Customize startup" link, given a way to make it fit. We could replace that with "Don't show this screen again". If users would like that better, let's make that replacement. A button to dismiss the splash screen would be fine in principle. I don't see how there is room for it. Do you think you see where it could go?