From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 21.1.50; [Gnus] Broken characters in iso-8859-15 formatted emails Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:38:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <20070907142018.E409595451@foobar.localdomain> <87ps0uj7g7.fsf@foobar.localdomain> <871wd9ebxv.fsf@foobar.localdomain> <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189412812 1462 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2007 08:26:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 08:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Thomas Christensen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 10 18:26:38 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IUlMB-000644-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:39:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUdro-0001pq-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUdrk-0001mg-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IUdri-0001hO-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IUdrh-0001hC-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUdrh-0008Hp-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUdrK-0007bZ-JB for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUdrc-0008GR-ET for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IUdrb-0008Fh-K8 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id l8A7d2N5013392; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:39:02 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id l8A7d1HE017191; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:39:01 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id l8A7cvuA024790; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:38:57 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from handa by etlken.m17n.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IUdrF-0002ht-0U; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:38:57 +0900 In-reply-to: <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar> (message from Thomas Christensen on Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:26:29 +0200) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/23.0.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-Detected-Kernel: Solaris 8 (1) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:78421 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:19814 Archived-At: In article <20070910072629.GA12677@foobar>, Thomas Christensen writes: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:41:06AM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > > In article <871wd9ebxv.fsf@foobar.localdomain>, Thomas Christensen writes: > > > > > I must apologize for the noise. It appears to be that Gentoo is > > > hardcoded to only generate iso-8859-1 fonts in modular X. > > > > Does it mean that the problem was solved by installing > > iso-8859-15 fonts? > Yes, it solved the problem completely. I puzzles me a bit though, > that Emacs is the only application that could not handle the > iso-8859-15 without these fonts, and also how the others applications > *did* handle this. But I know little of these matters. Emacs still doesn't uses Unicode character codes internally, thus iso-8859-1 characters and iso-8859-15 characters are treated differently. In many cases, user don't notice this difference because they are automatically converted from/to each other. The emacs-unicode-2 branch of Emacs CVS repository does uses Unicode internally and doesn't have such a problem. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org