From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: regression in C-x v = in latest versions Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:47:08 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200708191705.57599.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200708232340.30025.pogonyshev@gmx.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1188168599 13740 80.91.229.12 (26 Aug 2007 22:49:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, pogonyshev@gmx.net, esr@snark.thyrsus.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 27 00:49:55 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IPQvV-0007lY-MC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:49:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IPQvU-0003aQ-W5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:49:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IPQt0-0001On-6X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:47:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IPQsz-0001OT-IO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IPQsz-0001OO-Cu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IPQsy-0005xX-PF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IPQsu-0001jo-1C; Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:47:08 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:31:20 -0400) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:77232 Archived-At: I'd rather not do it: this is supposed to be a temporary situation, so if he's not able to do the maintenance of this intermediate state, I'm unsure he'll be able to finish the change. The need for a valid change log for the change that was already installed is a permanent need. Even if he can't do the rest of the redesign he planned, we still need a proper change log for what was installed (unless we take it out). And it is increasingly looking like ESR is not going to provide that. Would you please do it?