From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Multiple major modes Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:07:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <466E7A93.3050705@gmail.com> <466E81AA.3030202@gnu.org> <466E9822.2050508@gmail.com> <466EAB9D.9020408@gnu.org> <466EEA71.2070700@gmail.com> <200706122014.l5CKEKV1021902@projectile.siege-engine.com> <200706190209.l5J29Csr010302@projectile.siege-engine.com> <200706251404.l5PE4dgc011720@projectile.siege-engine.com> <18059.52286.486779.619378@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fy42vzob.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1183813893 8106 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2007 13:11:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 13:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman@gmail.com, jasonr@gnu.org, raman@users.sourceforge.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, eric@siege-engine.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, sdl.web@gmail.com To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 07 15:11:30 2007 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I7A4P-0001x2-TK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:11:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7A4O-0006j2-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:11:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I7A05-0004lx-DI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I7A04-0004la-QK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I7A04-0004lX-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I7A04-0006sY-4O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I7A08-0007Ux-K0; Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:07:04 -0400 In-reply-to: <87fy42vzob.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74440 Archived-At: Once I've localized to a function (usually via a backtrace), the first thing I normally do is `describe-function', and then jump to the source via find-function from the help buffer. I often do that, but I don't read carefully thru the buffer thaht `describe-function' displays. If it said something about advice, I wouldn't even notice, unless I read carefully thru the buffer to look for such. And I am in too much of a hurry to make a practice of always reading that text carefully. Maybe this is a consequence of getting older.