From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 11:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <86646mjvxp.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <2cd46e7f0705251413y975af0bwbd7c6709814fd915@mail.gmail.com> <85wsywysob.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871wh02d0d.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wsyr1yte.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87veeb1pwy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1180539933 3379 80.91.229.12 (30 May 2007 15:45:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ich@frank-schmitt.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 30 17:45:27 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HtQMW-00027N-Ls for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 17:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HtQMW-0004yd-9o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:45:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HtQLS-0004No-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HtQLR-0004NH-FW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HtQLR-0004N3-6a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HtQLQ-0004lF-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HtQLC-0006py-5I; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:44:02 -0400 In-reply-to: <87veeb1pwy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (stephen@xemacs.org) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71990 Archived-At: > The developer says "dear build system, I think I in my package humba, I > only use package foo, bar and baz". The build system installs foo, bar > and baz in *a clean environment outside of the developers workspace* > (e.g. a fresh CVS checkout of Emacs), tries to build humba there and > reports success or failure. Oh, OK, that will work. But that's equivalent to what XEmacs does. It tends toward centralization because it's most efficient if done in the context of a comprehensive list of packages, all available in a single repository. We don't need to think about anything so complex. If the list of dependencies are wrong, it is a bug and the package maintainer fixes it.