From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:52:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> <17991.47259.210100.801472@localhost.localdomain> <86646mjvxp.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87abvyt3hm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179845637 19793 80.91.229.12 (22 May 2007 14:53:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jdsmith@as.arizona.edu To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 22 16:53:53 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HqVkE-0000T2-S3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 16:53:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqVkF-0003zC-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqVil-000253-LU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:52:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HqVil-00023y-11 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:52:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HqVik-00023o-Ph for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HqVik-0005Oz-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HqVif-0001Ey-1q; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:52:13 -0400 In-reply-to: <87abvyt3hm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Mon, 21 May 2007 14:51:01 -0400) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71603 Archived-At: An analogy can be drawn to the Debian apt system. Debian doesn't need to get copyright assignments before packaging a program; we do need them, before we distribute a program in Emacs. That changes everything. In addition, Debian normally expects to find its own maintainers for its own version of the program. We want the developer of the Lisp program to keep maintaining it as part of Emacs. That makes two ways in which we need or want the developer's continued cooperation. If we were to help the users and the Lisp program developers bypass us, we would be creating unnecessary difficulties for our efforts. It would be a mistake. Our goal is not simply to make the users as happy as possible in the short term.