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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
To: Volkan YAZICI <yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail]
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:06:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1HYe1n-0003e7-07@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wt0uhee5.fsf@ttnet.net.tr> (message from Volkan YAZICI on Mon,  02 Apr 2007 20:31:14 +0300)

In article <87y7lahee5.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>, Volkan YAZICI <yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr> writes:

> > --- 691,704 ----
> >   			  (>= (car response-code) 400))
> >   		      (throw 'done nil)))
> >   	      (dolist (line (cdr (cdr response-code)))
> > ! 		(let ((name (mapcar (lambda (s)
> > ! 				      (setq s (downcase s))
> > ! 				      ;; If `I' is downcased to dotless-i,
> > ! 				      ;; convert it to `i'.
> > ! 				      (if (/= (downcase ?I) ?i)
> > ! 					  (subst-char-in-string
> > ! 					   (downcase ?I) ?i s t))

> Such a fix is quite unfeasible. What do you think to do for other
> problematic characters as well? Introduce a new if-else clause for
> every one?

To avoid such an ad-hoc fix, I must know the purpose of
downcasing here.  Do we need just "tr A-Z a-z"?  Or, do we
have to downcase also non-ASCII chars?  In the latter case,
what to do with conversion from dotted-I to `i' in Turkish?
Do we need such an advanced downcasing as "MASSE" -> "maße"
for German?

> I am not faimilar with introducing a new macro policy of emacs team
> but it'd probably be useful (handy?) to have something similar to this
> macro:

> (with-case-table 'ascii
>   ;; Any call to DOWNCASE/UPCASE within this (dynamic?) scope will use
>   ;; the case conversion table specified in the first argument of the
>   ;; WITH-CASE-TABLE macro.
>   ...)

I also thought about such a thing at first, but the above
questions rose, and unless I know clearly what to do,
anything I do will be ad-hoc.  So, I reached to the quite
localized fix (also by considering that the release is
near).

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-03  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-31 20:43 [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail] Richard Stallman
2007-04-01 17:39 ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-02  6:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-02 22:52   ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-02 23:20     ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03  1:24     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-03 21:40     ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-02 17:31 ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03  8:06   ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2007-04-03  8:28     ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-03  9:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03  9:33       ` Simon Josefsson
2007-04-03 13:44         ` Volkan YAZICI
2007-04-03 15:29           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 15:50             ` David Kastrup
2007-04-03 16:03               ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found]               ` <87k5wt5tnx.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>
2007-04-03 16:21                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                 ` <87slbhquuw.fsf@ttnet.net.tr>
2007-04-03 18:44                   ` David Kastrup
2007-04-03 16:30             ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-03 17:57               ` with-case-table / ascii-case-table (was: [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail]) Reiner Steib
2007-04-04 15:40                 ` with-case-table / ascii-case-table Chong Yidong
2007-04-04 14:02               ` [yazicivo@ttnet.net.tr: Locale Dependent Downcasing in smtpmail] Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 14:27                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-04-05 23:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-06  6:15                     ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-06  6:49                       ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06  7:15                         ` Kenichi Handa
2007-04-06  7:30                           ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06  8:56                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-06  9:24                             ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06 13:54                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07  8:01                                 ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-04-06 19:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07  7:30                         ` martin rudalics
2007-04-07 17:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-04 18:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-05 23:11                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-06  8:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-06 19:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07  9:18                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07 15:03                           ` Chong Yidong
2007-04-07 17:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-07 17:31                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-04-07 17:47                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-04-03 21:16           ` Davis Herring

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