From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fix needed for communication with gpg-agent Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:37:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87irdzs6pp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy91g1pl.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87wt2dk2rv.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <873b4yt7xx.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ps82ukz8.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> <87slcynii0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87bqjivxrz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878xelkydk.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> <874pp8asmg.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172630431 29997 80.91.229.12 (28 Feb 2007 02:40:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:40:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, miles@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, ueno@unixuser.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Werner Koch Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 28 03:40:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HMEjs-0006iP-QF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:40:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMEjs-0007ik-TV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:40:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMEio-0007Hj-Fn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:39:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HMEin-0007HP-UV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:39:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HMEin-0007HI-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1HMEin-00054y-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:39:13 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HMEhE-00051I-R4; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:37:36 -0500 In-reply-to: <874pp8asmg.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> (message from Werner Koch on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:53:43 +0100) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:66984 Archived-At: It seems this thread is about two different topics: - Using Pinentry - Using Emacs to send (and cache) a passphrase to gpg I see those as two parts of a slightly larger topic: What should we do _now_ in Emacs as regards use of gpg keys. We want something that is secure enough and not too inconvenient. I am always thinking of using the gpg-agent - eventually gpg-agent will not only cache the passphrase but handle all secret keys. Thus this latter case will sooner or later be irrelevant as tehre won't be any way for Emacs to tell gpg (actually gpg2 or gpgsm) a passphrase. Please do NOT do this until we have implemented in Emacs a way to do this, that works conveniently in all modes of using Emacs.