From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: UI issue: inactive menu entries and icons Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <861wmlsek9.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167254322 1582 80.91.229.10 (27 Dec 2006 21:18:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 27 22:18:39 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GzgAZ-00071e-F3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 22:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GzgAY-0007d9-GM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:18:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gzg8s-0006VO-Fc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gzg8r-0006UH-Mg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gzg8q-0006U3-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gzg8q-00030c-DM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:52 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Gzg8f-0002g7-2Y; Wed, 27 Dec 2006 16:16:41 -0500 Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <861wmlsek9.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Wed, 27 Dec 2006 13:34:14 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64372 Archived-At: I find it disturbing that inactive menu entries and toolbar icons won't display their tooltip. "What is this about?" is an interesting question also when an item is inactive. I actually find this _particularly_ interesting since I would like to figure out what would make such entries active. Not getting the tooltip for them makes this more difficult. That is an interesting point, and maybe Emacs should display those tooltips. Does anyone see an argument against it? Anyway, is it Emacs that makes the choice, or is it the GUI toolkit?