From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: [reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc: language environment should not be derived from LC_CTYPE] Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:02 -0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1164250344 23187 80.91.229.2 (23 Nov 2006 02:52:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 23 03:52:22 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn4hE-0007WY-FM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 03:52:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn4hE-0006Zb-2h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn4h2-0006YB-Nv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn4h2-0006Xg-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gn4h1-0006Xa-UL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn4h2-0006rU-2C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:04 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1Gn4h0-00057g-Uh; Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:52:03 -0500 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:62709 Archived-At: Would someone please DTRT and ack? ------- Start of forwarded message ------- From: Reiner Steib To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Mail-Followup-To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:36:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Subject: language environment should not be derived from LC_CTYPE Reply-To: Reiner Steib X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=failed version=3.0.4 [ I already sent this yesterday (via Gmane), but apparently it didn't make it to the list (). Sorry if you get it twice. ] `M-x report-emacs-bug' wrote: > Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug > and the precise symptoms of the bug: I have the following locale settings [1]: $ env|grep -e LC_ -e LANG LANG=en_US LC_COLLATE=POSIX LC_CTYPE=de_DE@euro $ emacs -Q `current-language-environment's value is "German" and I get the German tutorial. I expected to see the English version and an English language environment: ,----[ (info "(libc)Locale Categories") ] | `LC_CTYPE' | This category applies to classification and conversion of | characters, and to multibyte and wide characters; see *Note | Character Handling::, and *Note Character Set Handling::. | | [...] | | `LC_MESSAGES' | This category applies to selecting the language used in the user | interface for message translation (*note The Uniforum approach::; | *note Message catalogs a la X/Open::) and contains regular | expressions for affirmative and negative responses. | | `LC_ALL' | This is not an environment variable; it is only a macro that you | can use with `setlocale' to set a single locale for all purposes. | Setting this environment variable overwrites all selections by the | other `LC_*' variables or `LANG'. | | `LANG' | If this environment variable is defined, its value specifies the | locale to use for all purposes except as overridden by the | variables above. `---- > In GNU Emacs 22.0.91.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.3) > of 2006-11-21 on viandante > X server distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.60802000 > configured using `configure '--prefix=...' '--with-gtk' '--exec-prefix=...'' > Important settings: > value of $LC_ALL: nil > value of $LC_COLLATE: POSIX > value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE@euro > value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil > value of $LC_MONETARY: nil > value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil > value of $LC_TIME: nil > value of $LANG: en_US > locale-coding-system: iso-8859-15 > default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Bye, Reiner. [1] If you wonder why I use a mixture of de_DE and en_US locales: I want to display the ? in plain text files in xterm, but I prefer English program interfaces. (Some of my systems offer en_US.iso885915, but IIRC not all.) - -- ,,, (o o) - ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ _______________________________________________ emacs-pretest-bug mailing list emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-pretest-bug ------- End of forwarded message -------