From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: need option so line-move-to-column ignores fields, plus patch Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0608310848l743430e9ia7a1d45e22428083@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608312339s16a2a101p8c30840bbdeb0d22@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0609032143v311b670dra2d2ef679dd936@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0609041256q73c0c0d3s7631a964ae9a8367@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0609060952m54601787x8c91412af7fbf69f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157612284 7328 80.91.229.2 (7 Sep 2006 06:58:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 06:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 07 08:58:04 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLDpV-0000HZ-CZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:57:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLDpV-0007bG-0c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:57:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GLDmy-0002sC-12 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GLDmx-0002qB-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GLDmx-0002ps-3a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:55:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GLDnG-00033g-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:55:22 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GLDmo-0001az-SH; Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:54:57 -0400 Original-To: "Ken Manheimer" In-reply-to: <2cd46e7f0609060952m54601787x8c91412af7fbf69f@mail.gmail.com> (ken.manheimer@gmail.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59487 Archived-At: i would still be worried that the cursor will annoyingly get pushed rightwards when moving across content lines, due to traversing headlines of deep topics, where the structure portion of the line extends further to the right. That could certainly happen, but why would it be annoying? The cursor would come back towards the original column as you move onward into lines whose structure portion is shorter. This is like what happens when you start at a high-numbered column and move through lines that are too short to reach that column. this would be mitigated by preserving and restoring the displaced leftwards placements, I don't understand those words. but the behavior i'm concerned with doesn't obtain for the cases you're considering, so i doubt it would be provided for. Which cases do you mean by "the cases [I'm] considering"? I am considering the allout cases you describe. (i kinda doubt that my description of the concern is readily understandable, sigh). If the "description of the concern" refers to the words I cited at the top of this message, I think I understand the behavior, but I don't understand why you see it as a problem. the option simplifies this concern. That's not enough to make the option _necessary_. Remember I want to avoid options when possible. If we can get good enough behavior without one, then the option isn't needed.