From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: need option so line-move-to-column ignores fields, plus patch Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:49:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0608310848l743430e9ia7a1d45e22428083@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608312339s16a2a101p8c30840bbdeb0d22@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0609032143v311b670dra2d2ef679dd936@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0609041256q73c0c0d3s7631a964ae9a8367@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157532765 9004 80.91.229.2 (6 Sep 2006 08:52:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 08:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 06 10:52:44 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GKt98-0007Aw-R8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 10:52:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GKt98-0002AR-BR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:52:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GKt60-00076D-HD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:49:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GKt5z-00073r-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:49:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GKt5z-00073P-94 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:49:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GKt66-0002Sd-4X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:49:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GKt5y-0005LL-Eo; Wed, 06 Sep 2006 04:49:18 -0400 Original-To: "Ken Manheimer" In-reply-to: <2cd46e7f0609041256q73c0c0d3s7631a964ae9a8367@mail.gmail.com> (ken.manheimer@gmail.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59419 Archived-At: the one i've been suggesting - retention of the column on line-move regardless of fields. I see. Since that would definitely be bad for the minibuffer, that could only be an option. You'd like to make this an option, but I think that approach has a serious drawback -- namely, presenting a choice between two alternatives, each of which is flawed for some cases. Meanwhile, the current code is broken for the minibuffer too. We need to fix it. I am hoping that, once it is fixed right for the minibuffer, it will be ok for allout as well -- thus eliminating the need for an ugly option. further, allout already offers retention of the cursor on the item bullet position when doing hot-spot navigation I don't know what "hot-spot navigation" means, so you've lost me completely.