From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: (no subject) Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:17 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1157220544 22110 80.91.229.2 (2 Sep 2006 18:09:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 18:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 02 20:09:01 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJZv1-00084E-7o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:08:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJZv0-0007y3-Q1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GJZum-0007u6-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GJZul-0007tD-TM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GJZul-0007t3-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GJa4s-0005NX-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GJZuj-0001sC-Fc; Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:08:17 -0400 Original-To: "Ken Manheimer" X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59259 Archived-At: In-reply-to: <2cd46e7f0609010846o7b393dd5xef60a645125d08@mail.gmail.com> (ken.manheimer@gmail.com) Subject: Re: cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21 bcc: rms-outgoing@gnu.org Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <2cd46e7f0608181622w23c7d2b0h9b963deeadfd1c06@mail.gmail.com> <87wt8sbhux.fsf@jurta.org> <2cd46e7f0608291431k1d26dac9l1f41c271da28495e@mail.gmail.com> <85y7t7mdha.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <2cd46e7f0608291512ne9a865av7fb7bb537658887a@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608301120q190d710bya04f85359e79e29@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0609010846o7b393dd5xef60a645125d08@mail.gmail.com> --text follows this line-- > What happens when you do not specify any :mask attribute? > Is that the case where the cursor fails to show? yes. > If I understand right, then this is a bug, as I previously said. i think i agree. the only question i have concerns the resonsibility and disrcetion of the application developer. I think we have a responsibility to make sure that the default way of displaying an image does work properly with the cursor. To have some peculiar option which means the cursor does not display properly might be excusable, but it's not excusable for the default to display wrong. I suggested: That would be bad, since it would change the geometry. What I think he proposed is to show the cursor over the outer parts of the image. That seems good for this case. Is anyone working on this?