From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: makeinfo 4.7 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200608261711.k7QHBUS15318@f7.net> <85lkpaywjk.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85irkd3j86.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156718275 9013 80.91.229.2 (27 Aug 2006 22:37:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:37:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 28 00:37:51 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHTGD-0003IX-RV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:37:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHTGD-0004Yd-3a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHTG0-0004YY-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHTFy-0004YM-Ub for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHTFy-0004YJ-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GHTOn-0007Of-Ks for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GHTFy-0000sD-4E; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:37:30 -0400 Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <85irkd3j86.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:30:01 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58962 Archived-At: > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org > From: David Kastrup > Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 00:30:01 +0200 > > > I thought the GNU project was about being able to modify the manual, > > not only use whatever is shipped with the tarballs. > > If you are modifying the manual, you can be expected to be using > development tools that are not from the stone age. If it is really necessary to ask them to upgrade, I agree. But this is not our case. Are you saying we should ask people to upgrade for no good reason at all? > That is nothing an inexperienced user would do. There's nothing in "make info" that requires any particular experience, IMO. > > On top of that, a large number of users who aren't developers are > > using the CVS code, where you must have Texinfo to produce the > > manual. > > Again, this is nothing an inexperienced user would do. I think you should check your facts. It is no longer true that only hackers use the CVS code.