From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is OpenUsability something for Emacs? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:42:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: <44E72B0F.8060306@student.lu.se> <44E81F63.8000105@student.lu.se> <200608201424.37537.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <873bbqgwo1.fsf@vertex.dottedmag.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156232642 7657 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2006 07:44:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 07:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 22 09:43:58 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFQvU-0001Nq-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 09:43:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFQvT-0006b6-Mp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFQtl-0005qu-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:42:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GFQtk-0005q5-30 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:42:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GFQtj-0005pr-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:42:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GFR1I-0004D2-7U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:49:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1GFQti-0000B4-6T; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:42:06 -0400 Original-To: Mikhail Gusarov In-reply-to: <873bbqgwo1.fsf@vertex.dottedmag.net> (message from Mikhail Gusarov on Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:23:10 +0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58693 Archived-At: RS> One can't expect users to know about that command. In order for RS> that to be the solution to the no-mouse problem, something on the RS> screen needs to say how to use it. Usability is about using things, not about learning to use things. Would you like to have every possible Emacs keybinding shown on the screen? Emacs is not a GUI designed for beginning users. It is a mistake to take a size fits all" approach to these questions.