From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 'cal 9 1752' and emacs calendar disagree Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200607192224.k6JMOOHT024840@emr.cs.iit.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153409600 17328 80.91.229.2 (20 Jul 2006 15:33:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , sdl.web@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 20 17:33:18 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G3aWN-0000dY-TR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:33:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G3aWN-0001iX-9d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G3aWC-0001gL-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:52 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G3aWB-0001fn-Md for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G3aWB-0001fa-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G3aWO-0006Dx-N5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:33:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1G3aWA-0001Ex-DI; Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:32:50 -0400 Original-To: Ed Reingold In-reply-to: <200607192224.k6JMOOHT024840@emr.cs.iit.edu> (message from Ed Reingold on Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:24:24 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57378 Archived-At: What cal gives is the first part of the month on Julian calendar and the latter part on the Gregorian--that is nonsense. It is not be quite nonsense, if it reflects the actual calendar used in England and its colonies at the time. However, England and its colonies were not the whole world, so it doesn't make sense for a calendar program to display in a way that is right for them and wrong for everywhere else. (I would guess this was originally done because Unix was written in the US, which was formerly part of England's colonies.) It would be nice if Emacs could display pure Julian calendar for all dates, as an option. And we could then imagine, as further options, to display the calendar as it was used in England, or some other place, including whatever transition period there was in that place.