From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch to remove minor modes in tutorial Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:33:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <449D4787.6030809@student.lu.se> <449EFFBB.80508@student.lu.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151321724 29870 80.91.229.2 (26 Jun 2006 11:35:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 26 13:35:21 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FupMz-00081S-BJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:35:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FupMy-0000Q4-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FupLV-000854-Rm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FupLV-00084g-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FupLV-00084b-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FupXM-0002gB-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:45:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1FupLU-00054G-9Z; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:33:36 -0400 Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-reply-to: <449EFFBB.80508@student.lu.se> (message from Lennart Borgman on Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:27:23 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:56195 Archived-At: Some minor modes have no keybindings so they can not disturb the tutorial (recentf-mode for example). Well, at least I hope they can not. I think this is very important! I think it is safer to turn them all off, aside from a specific list of exceptions. > Why ask? Why not just do it? > To make the user aware of that Emacs will work differently in the tutorial buffer than in other buffer (if the user answers Y). I agree it is useful to do that, but I think that asking a question will be confusing in a different way, since it will suggest that it is reasonable to answer N. Displaying a message which ends in "Type SPACE to proceed" is a better way to make sure the user notices the message.