From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Unicode Lisp reader escapes Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:13:20 +0900 Message-ID: References: <17491.34779.959316.484740@parhasard.net> <87odyfnqcj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <17498.27200.911709.330947@parhasard.net> <877j4z5had.fsf@gmx.de> <87irohfrx1.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1147670329 29866 80.91.229.2 (15 May 2006 05:18:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 05:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, alkibiades@gmx.de Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 15 07:18:48 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfVTY-00055x-BK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 07:18:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfVTX-0003UR-Lu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:18:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FfVTM-0003Tp-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:18:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FfVTL-0003TJ-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:18:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfVTL-0003TC-GA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:18:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FfVQv-0005pG-Ou; Mon, 15 May 2006 01:15:54 -0400 Original-Received: from nfs.m17n.org (nfs.m17n.org [192.47.44.7]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k4F5DLjA009553; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:13:21 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by nfs.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k4F5DLv7007118; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:13:21 +0900 Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1FfVOS-00078Z-00; Mon, 15 May 2006 14:13:20 +0900 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 13 May 2006 00:52:05 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/22.0.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54486 Archived-At: In article , Richard Stallman writes: > How about just asking users to use emacs-mule coding system > for *.el files if they want them decoded the same way > independent of various settings on byte-compiling? > Maybe that is a good enough solution. Does this solution > solve the whole problem? Yes, as far as I know. > Handa says that telling people "don't use utf-8" solves the problem. That's NOT what I saied. I said "use emacs-mule". The other coding systems are affected by unify-8859-on-decoding-mode, and also by users setting of standard-translation-table-for-decode. > There is a way for a Lisp file to specify a coding system which isn't > utf-8. Is there a way for a Lisp file to specify that > unify-8859-on-decoding should not be used when reading it? No. > If not, maybe we should make one. But, as emacs-mule is not affected by unify-8859-on-decoding, we don't have to invent it as long as we suggest people to use emacs-mule in a problematic case. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org