From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default face problem Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:47:58 +0900 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1147668512 26265 80.91.229.2 (15 May 2006 04:48:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 04:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wilde@sha-bang.de, jyavner@member.fsf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 15 06:48:29 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfV0M-00083F-79 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 06:48:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfV0L-00006g-QE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FfV08-0008WM-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FfV06-0008VD-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:48:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FfV06-0008V9-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FfV2K-0008WO-R6; Mon, 15 May 2006 00:50:29 -0400 Original-Received: from nfs.m17n.org (nfs.m17n.org [192.47.44.7]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k4F4m0CH008117; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:48:00 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by nfs.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge1) with ESMTP id k4F4lxku006171; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:47:59 +0900 Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1FfUzu-0006UN-00; Mon, 15 May 2006 13:47:58 +0900 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 15 May 2006 06:33:14 +0300) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/22.0.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:54482 Archived-At: In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: >> On X also, x-list-fonts returns nil for a pattern that has >> no matches. The problem is that X server thinks that it has >> the font -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1. > Sorry, I don't understand your last sentence. If x-list-fonts returns > nil, Emacs will not start at all, it prints the above error message > and exits immediately (at least that's what happens on > w32). Yes. > So what problem happens on X due to the fact that ``X > server thinks that it has the font > -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--17-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1''? I've already written the reason. In short, because, on deciding the default face's font, the current code refuses to use such an auto-scaled font. Please check my previous mails for detail. If Windows never provide an auto-scaled font, it doesn't have the current problem. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org