From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs crashes Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <17429.54459.803236.351040@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17431.11106.207260.301400@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17431.50979.793825.145291@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17432.35295.698354.992551@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1142540386 25511 80.91.229.2 (16 Mar 2006 20:19:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 16 21:19:36 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FJyw4-00028B-PM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:19:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FJyw3-0000Rf-Ve for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FJyvj-0000Qm-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:18:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FJyvi-0000QR-Vz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:18:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FJyvi-0000QM-Mi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:18:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FJz0R-00041K-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1FJyvh-00031K-Rl; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:18:41 -0500 Original-To: Nick Roberts In-reply-to: <17432.35295.698354.992551@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:40:47 +1300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:51713 Archived-At: > A simple list of values recorded in last_marked[] won't do. You need > to correlate it with the innermost frames you see in the backtrace, > and from that correlation figure out the name of the Lisp data > structure that is being marked. The connection between the values > recorded in last_marked[] will be revealed if you look at the code, > because, e.g., when GC finds a cons, it recursively marks its car and > its cdr. By looking at the code, you should be able to find this and > other similar connections between the values, like A being a property > of B etc. OK, this tells me more than I could find in DEBUG. Could you add some of that to DEBUG?