From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
Subject: Re: [jidanni@jidanni.org: just try once to create ~/.emacs.d]
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:48:36 -0500
Message-ID: <E1FG3ts-0000Fr-SJ@fencepost.gnu.org>
References: <E1FF7Tc-000687-HE@fencepost.gnu.org>
	<87oe0mfdng.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
Reply-To: rms@gnu.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1141606187 14023 80.91.229.2 (6 Mar 2006 00:49:47 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 00:49:47 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org
Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 06 01:49:44 2006
Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>
Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org
Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165])
	by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
	id 1FG3up-0008VB-T1
	for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 01:49:36 +0100
Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
	id 1FG3ux-00083H-I7
	for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:49:43 -0500
Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43)
	id 1FG3u8-0003Zt-0l
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:48:52 -0500
Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43)
	id 1FG3u3-0003DP-DY
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:48:51 -0500
Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FG3u2-0003Ci-Tt
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:48:46 -0500
Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org)
	by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FG3wB-0007so-1h
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:50:59 -0500
Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34)
	id 1FG3ts-0000Fr-SJ; Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:48:36 -0500
Original-To: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
In-reply-to: <87oe0mfdng.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on
	Sat, 04 Mar 2006 10:11:31 -0500)
X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>,
	<mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-devel>
List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>,
	<mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org
Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org
Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:51256
Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/51256>

    > One day try
    > # su - nobody
    > $ emacs
    > You'll get these messages, more than one a minute:
    >   make-directory: Creating directory: permission denied, //.emacs.d
    > OK, but how about have it just try once, else "frequent visual bells
    > may send some users into epileptic seizures, and who's going to pay
    > for that?"

    Can you reproduce it with emacs -q?

This could, conceivably, be due to code that depends directly on a
non-nil init-file-user, even if his init file is empty.