From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display slowness that is painful Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87slr5c78p.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877j8fx43q.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mzhaqp7p.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87irruk1mg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139805901 22105 80.91.229.2 (13 Feb 2006 04:45:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 04:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 13 05:45:00 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8Va2-0000xZ-Oc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:44:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8Va2-0001CG-7W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:44:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F8VW3-0007i0-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:40:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F8VW2-0007hZ-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:40:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F8VW2-0007hU-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:40:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F8VaP-0002YA-Nk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:45:17 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1F8VW1-0007Sj-1z; Sun, 12 Feb 2006 23:40:45 -0500 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50445 Archived-At: > Then there's the problem you reported, where redisplay took a few > seconds, and that was long enough to be pre-empted by selection > requests from Klipper. Yes, that is a different problem as such -- but I guess we can find other cases where some activity is stalling redisplay when redisplay-dont-pause is nil. This is not exactly a bug in Emacs, it is a bad interaction. I will not claim it necessarily indicates a bug in some other program, but I have a feeling that that is so. Anyway, we don't know of a case where it occurs except due to a bug in some other program. So I think we need not worry about this now. If and when we find a case where this happens, and we don't think the other program is at fault, we can think about what change is needed in Emacs. > That is also a serious issue, but it is due to a Klipper bug and we > can address it sufficiently by telling users "Update your KDE or don't > run Klipper". Isn't that so? That is a work-around for one manifestation of the problem... Is any other manifestation known?