From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.mail.mh-e.devel Subject: Re: mh-e/mh-acros.el advices `require' incorrectly Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:29:38 +0900 Message-ID: References: <837.1137190309@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137200207 1412 80.91.229.2 (14 Jan 2006 00:56:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 14 01:56:40 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExZNv-0008AD-UW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:35:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExZQ4-0003Mg-D9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:37:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExZKx-0001UE-Nv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:32:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExZKs-0001T3-Kx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:32:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExZKq-0001Sd-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:32:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1ExZNt-0003fC-Oe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:35:10 -0500 Original-Received: from nfs.m17n.org (nfs.m17n.org [192.47.44.7]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0E0TdMx011298; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:29:39 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by nfs.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id k0E0TdhI004872; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:29:39 +0900 Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1ExZIY-0006Wi-00; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:29:38 +0900 Original-To: Bill Wohler In-reply-to: <837.1137190309@olgas.newt.com> (message from Bill Wohler on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:11:49 -0800) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/22.0.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49049 gmane.mail.mh-e.devel:11271 Archived-At: In article <837.1137190309@olgas.newt.com>, Bill Wohler writes: >> Besides the fact that we shouldn't use defadvice in vanilla Emacs code, I >> don't think we should change the return value of `require' at all. It has >> acted this way for a very long time, and there is undoubtedly code that >> depends on this behavior (at least some external libraries). Besides, we >> certainly should not make such a change just before a release. > Unless you load MH-E, require does not change. Unfortunately, even if we don't load MH-E explicitly, now, just compiling some file in emacs/lisp/mh-e/*.el change the behaviour of `require'. > If I understand correctly, Kanichi's patch addresses your > concern (about the return value of require changing). Yes. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org