From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes. Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:25:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200512210254.jBL2sj814876@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87d5jqrvuo.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512212219.jBLMJ3R29494@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87lkydx021.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512220351.jBM3pvX02615@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <8764phpyvf.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512230029.jBN0TgT16314@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <1135392570.183714.29626.nullmailer@Update.UU.SE> <200512250324.jBP3OdM16529@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200601022026.k02KQQh21528@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1136307133 32155 80.91.229.2 (3 Jan 2006 16:52:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:52:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ams@gnu.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 03 17:52:08 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EtpNU-0005pl-Vc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:51:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EtpP7-0003QY-TM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:52:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Etp20-0001FG-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:29:04 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Etp1z-0001Ey-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Etp1z-0001Es-2i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Etp3E-0006Db-Kj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:30:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Etoyx-0007wK-J8; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:25:57 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200601022026.k02KQQh21528@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Mon, 2 Jan 2006 14:26:26 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48656 Archived-At: How about "Show Current Settings" or "Show Current Values"? It is longer than the current text and, to me, not clearer at all. Actually, it would be confusing, certainly for the whole buffer button. It makes it appear that you have to press this button to see the current values No, the words don't mean that, and I see no reason to think people are particularly likely to misunderstand them in that way. and makes you wonder what the shown values are (defaults, saved values?). That is good! The values shown in the buffer are NOT in general the current values. For the State button message, the plural is wrong. That is not a big deal. Anyway, we could use the singular for those buttons. What about "Cancel Customization", "Cancel Saved Settings", "Erase Saved Settings", etc? The last two would be misleading: it is not just going to cancel and erase saved values, but edited, set and rogue values as well. That is not a problem. It is fine if the name of an operation describes only the most important thing it does. The name need not describe all the lesser things the operation also does. And "Reset to Saved" could be "Show Saved Settings" or "Show Saved Values"? "Reset to Saved" does exactly what it says: it resets to the saved value. It does not just show the saved value. I had forgotten. If this button actually sets the value, then "reset" is a good name for it.