From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Starnge comment in Custom Theme code. Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:55:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200512241630.jBOGU6H09878@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87bqz6h0lw.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200512250145.jBP1jQK15586@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200512260329.jBQ3Tnt29652@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135659459 11176 80.91.229.2 (27 Dec 2005 04:57:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 04:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 27 05:57:36 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Er6tz-0004AG-8w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:57:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Er6vD-0007hP-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:58:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Er6u9-0007KJ-Fk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:57:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Er6u8-0007Jt-Li for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:57:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Er6u8-0007Jq-JF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:57:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Er6u4-0005QW-SE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:57:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Er6sK-000575-6b; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:55:52 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200512260329.jBQ3Tnt29652@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:29:49 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48403 Archived-At: That doc says that to enable a theme permanently, you have to put (load-theme 'FOO) in your .emacs file. If you load a theme interactively, it is only for the current session. I completely agree with this particular setup. It is entirely consistent, but it is not very good. Everything else about custom themes can be done with a convenient interface, but permanently _using_ a theme requires writing Lisp code. That is not good. We need a convenient interface to permanently adjust the set of themes. I agree now that making various custom operations do so is not the right interface. But we need to add a good one. Telling users "edit .emacs" is not adequate. Perhaps the interface could be to customize custom-enabled-themes. We could make enable-theme and disable-theme work with Custom so that they won't make it a rogue value.