From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:32:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <708F3D2D-A87C-4F80-BC27-171D82653F4D@gmail.com> <069BF3EB-C5E4-4042-91E9-0DFB37C58E99@gmail.com> <87u0d3cu9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87y82b7evb.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135442371 16989 80.91.229.2 (24 Dec 2005 16:39:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 24 17:39:29 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqCQb-0008PF-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:39:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqCRg-0005kT-NO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:40:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EqCLZ-00045K-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:34:18 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EqCLW-00043w-8w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqCLT-00043P-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:34:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EqCKx-0005as-Uk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:33:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1EqCK1-0004Lp-3p; Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:32:41 -0500 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <87y82b7evb.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:43:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48307 Archived-At: 1. What is the purpose of adding the condition `enable-recursive-minibuffers' to `:enable' of "Visit New File..." and "Open File..."? I am not sure. 2. Why keymap variables are replaced with their values at the moment of adding a menu item? I.e. what changes like the following achieve? (define-key menu-bar-edit-menu [bookmark] - '(menu-item "Bookmarks" menu-bar-bookmark-map + `(menu-item "Bookmarks" ,menu-bar-bookmark-map :help "Record positions and jump between them")) I think a symbol in such a position means to use its function definition, not its value. Thus, unless I am misremembering, the first version would not work at all. Was it ever really in use?