From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: user preferences (was RE: toolbar conventions) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:52:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135274937 10105 80.91.229.2 (22 Dec 2005 18:08:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 22 19:08:55 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EpUrz-0008TZ-6n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:08:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EpUsz-0005Uy-Pp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EpUhe-0005UN-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EpUhd-0005TO-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:58:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EpUd6-00040r-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:53:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EpUcF-00040H-Rz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:52:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1EpUby-0000E4-Pv; Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:52:18 -0500 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48217 Archived-At: a. `set-variable' (better called `set-option', IMO) could be used as a quick replacement for `customize-option' to change the value (but not to save, browse, or do other things that you can do in Customize). To understand what I mean, don't think in terms of non-customizable user variables here; think in terms of customizable options. The point is that a command could be used to customize something, without the user ever entering the Customize UI. b. (just an illustration; not intended as a proposal for inclusion) Command `doremi-face-fg' (in my library doremi-frm.el) lets you modify a face's foreground color incrementally (using the arrow keys). I think these are good ideas, for after the release.