From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: toolbar conventions Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:39:44 -0500 Message-ID: References: <19466.1134769009@olgas.newt.com> <200512172022.jBHKMuw15652@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134967390 31261 80.91.229.2 (19 Dec 2005 04:43:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 04:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: wohler@newt.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 19 05:43:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoCrL-0007LP-J2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 05:42:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoCsA-00039c-Vw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:43:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EoCqw-0002R2-8F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:42:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EoCqv-0002Qd-Id for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:42:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EoCqv-0002QY-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:42:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EoCto-000419-H7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:45:24 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1EoCoK-0000Wi-TE; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:39:44 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200512172022.jBHKMuw15652@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:22:56 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48031 Archived-At: This appears to be a rather radical change in terminology, especially when supposedly preparing for a release. A change in documentation terminology is never radical in the way code changes can be. Last January we had far to go before a release. Getting the documentation into shape was the main job that needed doing, and I found out about a problem in the documentation of Customize. It needed a simple way to talk about all the things that you can customize. I tried redefining the term "option" to mean all kinds of things that appear in Custom buffers. The change was never extended to the other manuals, and it seems to be bigger than I thought. So I think that choice was a mistake. We ought to undo my half-made change. But we still need to address the original problem, to find some other solution to the original problem, some other term for "all the things that can appear in a Custom buffer." In January, some people argued for "preference". We could use that. Or perhaps "setting". What do people think of those? Any other suggestions?