From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Let's shut down bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:18:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: zedek@gnu-rox.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134429376 12332 80.91.229.2 (12 Dec 2005 23:16:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 13 00:16:08 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElwsH-0004P7-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:14:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Elwsm-0006V5-N1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:15:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Elw3k-0003PN-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:22:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Elw3j-0003ON-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:22:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Elw3h-0003Nm-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:22:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.41.184.169] (helo=smtp.gnu-rox.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Elw5S-000231-19; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:24:02 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gnu-rox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398428BBF7; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:24:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zedek by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Elvzc-0005jV-6U; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:18:00 +0100 Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:41:21 -0500) User-Agent: RMAIL/GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47572 Archived-At: From: Stefan Monnier Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org > I can see why you might hesitate to _read_ a list with a lot of spam, > but why, rationally, would the amount of spam affect your decision to > post to the list? I don't see how it makes any difference. It makes no difference indeed in the case where you don't read the list *at all* before posting. But if you select the newsgroup just before posting an article (the standard operation AFAIK: it's even usually recommended to read a bit of a newsgroup before you post to it), or if you check the archive before sending a mail to the mailing-list, then I'd be surprised if the spam doesn't turn you off. I mean: you really have to look for the valid articles in order to realize that the group/list is actually still alive. You got the point. In fact I feel like the OP and no longer read this mailing list. Maybe he is right when claiming we should have a moderation on that list since the list is practically unusable or useless in that state. Like the OP, I am voluntering to do so if needed. Xavier