From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should not tutorial always use the default global map? Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:22:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <439B82F8.4090207@student.lu.se> <87wticz1zz.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> <85pso328gr.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <439CA2B9.6060308@student.lu.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1134365115 543 80.91.229.2 (12 Dec 2005 05:25:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, belanger@truman.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 12 06:25:13 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElgAd-000841-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:24:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElgB6-0002zD-NI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElgAe-0002uh-Jo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:24:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ElgAd-0002sK-Os for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:24:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ElgAd-0002rt-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:24:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ElgCI-0005F4-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Elg97-0003VJ-P9; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:22:45 -0500 Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-reply-to: <439CA2B9.6060308@student.lu.se> (message from Lennart Borgman on Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:05:45 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47510 Archived-At: If we perhaps would just for this time let him/her go away and as an example for humankind be more friendly we could for example add this two lines at the end of `help-with-tutorial': (make-local-variable 'emulation-mode-map-alists) (setq emulation-mode-map-alists nil) We were talking about modified global bindings. Now you've raised a different case: use of an emulator. There's nothing we can do about modified global bindings in general. However, if emulation modes are enabled, the tutorial command could display a message like this: You are using the .... emulation modes, which will override some of the global bindings. The behavior of Emacs with these modes will mot match what the tutorial teaches. Do you want to disable these emulations modes before running the tutorial?