From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xavier Maillard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: fancy-splash-screen customize group... Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:02:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87r78ra0t6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: zedek@gnu-rox.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133827719 16931 80.91.229.2 (6 Dec 2005 00:08:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 00:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 06 01:08:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjQNg-0006mK-OZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:08:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjQNq-0001Je-CK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EjQL8-0000ep-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:05:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EjQL7-0000dY-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:05:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjQL6-0000dC-G8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:05:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.41.184.169] (helo=smtp.gnu-rox.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EjQLe-0006Sp-1W; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:06:22 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [10.0.0.7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gnu-rox.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D368BBFB; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 01:08:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zedek by localhost.localdomain with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EjQIE-0002zB-3n; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 01:02:50 +0100 Original-To: Chong Yidong In-reply-to: <87r78ra0t6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (message from Chong Yidong on Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:52:37 -0500) User-Agent: RMAIL/GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:47023 Archived-At: From: Chong Yidong In my experience, the biggest problem with Customize is that it is very difficult to find a user option, because of the sheer number of customization groups and options. That's the main problem I had back when I was learning to use Emacs. In fact, I found it easier to learn Emacs Lisp and write a .emacs file than to use Customize. I second that even if with the help of apropos and describe-* functions, customize is much more simpler to master. I still prefer using Emacs lisp code directly in my .emacs though. Xavier