From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: default mode for email drafts Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:19:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r78wx3jd.fsf@escher.local.home> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133731290 2463 80.91.229.2 (4 Dec 2005 21:21:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 04 22:21:28 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ej1Hm-0004SG-3p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 22:20:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ej1Hs-000480-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:20:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ej1Ga-0003kQ-5q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ej1GZ-0003k9-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:19:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ej1GZ-0003jq-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:19:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ej1Gx-0007Xj-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:19:51 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Ej1GC-0005E7-W6; Sun, 04 Dec 2005 16:19:05 -0500 Original-To: Stephen Berman In-reply-to: <87r78wx3jd.fsf@escher.local.home> (message from Stephen Berman on Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:03:50 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46963 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61460 Archived-At: I visited with C-x C-f a file whose file-name is an integer and whose immediate directory is named "drafts", and to my surprise I found myself in mh-letter-mode. I was surprised because I not only don't use mh-e but I don't even have MH installed on my system. I use Gnus to read and send email messages, and Gnus has a special group for drafts, and of course visiting a draft within Gnus DTRT. The problem is that Gnus uses a file structure for drafts that matches the regexp which auto-mode-alist associates exclusively with mh-letter-mode, which takes effect when visiting drafts outside of Gnus. I think that Gnus should change the file name so that mh-e won't be triggered. Is there any obstacle to this? I would guess that mh-e also a mechanism for visiting drafts in the appropriate mode. So does this association really have to forced for C-x C-f? It ought to be. Why should we choose to make one mode work well or the other? We can make both work well.