From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key-binding clash between gnus and calc Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:48:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <85acg5u9nl.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132143133 14193 80.91.229.2 (16 Nov 2005 12:12:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 13:12:09 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EcM7f-0003dW-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 13:10:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EcM7e-00065v-QX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 07:10:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EcKyI-00053j-2Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:56:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EcKxH-0004QH-3S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EcKqF-0003PF-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:48:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EcKqF-0001jS-H2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:48:39 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1EcKqD-0007RU-V3; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 05:48:38 -0500 Original-To: Sascha Wilde In-reply-to: (message from Sascha Wilde on Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:47:32 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46090 Archived-At: This is about a inconsistency in emacs which should be fixed. calc is part of GNU emacs and it uses and documents M-# as a global binding, while gnus -- part of gnu emacs, too -- binds it locally. I don't think I ever approved allocating M-# globally to this purpose. However, I think if one _must_ be changed, it should be calc, becuase calc until now has always been an extra add-on to Emacs, and for that reason probably used by many fewer people than gnus (which has been a part of emacs for a long time). That is probably what happened: when I decided to include Calc in Emacs, I didn't know that Calc had a global binding in it. Jay asked: Are there any conventions for global keybindings? Yes--you should always ask me.