From: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: david.reitter@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:54:19 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1EbOrj-0000kJ-BH@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u3bm34ll8.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:47:47 +0200)
> Isn't there a nicer way the groups can be separated?
We could use overlays to display the ^L as something more visually
appealing, while leaving ^L in the buffer.
^L is the standard way to indicate page boundaries.
If it is nicer to display them another way,
we could change redisplay to show ^L differently.
For instance, as a horizontal line.
I think it can wait till after the release.
[A compromise might be to display a ^L at the beginning of the line,
but a magic-horizontal-rule following it.
That could be a good variant of that feature.
Here's one more idea for displaying the bindings (it could also be
useful for what display-mode shows): put the help buffer into Outline
mode and use Outline-style headings instead of the ^L delimiters.
Initially, the display could be collapsed so that only the headings
are shown; users then could use Outline commands both for movement
between groups of bindings and for showing only those groups they are
interested in.
That is an interesting idea. However, I am concerned that the need
to understand Outline mode will be a big obstacle to making use of
the information.
> Couldn't there be a list of all groups in the beginning, with links
> going to the bindings belonging to the group?
Like in the *Help* buffer created by `C-h m'?
Something like that would be ok with me, as a general idea.
Whether it would really be an improvement depends on working out
the details in a good way.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-13 20:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-10 20:29 describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming David Reitter
2005-11-10 21:27 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-10 21:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-11 1:03 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-11 2:55 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-11 9:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-11-11 7:43 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 10:20 ` Henrik Enberg
2005-11-13 20:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-13 22:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-13 23:13 ` David Reitter
2005-11-14 0:10 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-14 0:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-14 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-11-14 15:35 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-15 5:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-19 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-15 3:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-14 4:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-14 17:48 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 18:18 ` Help menu (was: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming) David Reitter
2005-11-15 4:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-15 4:11 ` Help menu Juri Linkov
2005-11-15 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-15 18:07 ` Help menu (was: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming) Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-15 18:19 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-15 18:15 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-16 22:04 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-16 23:29 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-18 17:00 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-18 17:58 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-18 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-19 23:26 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-19 23:44 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-19 23:26 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-19 23:44 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-16 22:04 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 10:45 ` describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Jason Rumney
2005-11-11 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 9:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 8:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 18:02 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 20:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-11 8:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 9:33 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 10:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 10:17 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 18:02 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-11 19:10 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 20:49 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-11 21:16 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 21:26 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-11 22:32 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 22:42 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-11 23:40 ` David Reitter
2005-11-11 21:25 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-12 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 12:28 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-11-12 12:58 ` David Reitter
2005-11-12 14:28 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-11-12 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 20:20 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-12 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-11-12 13:56 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-11 19:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-13 20:54 ` Richard M. Stallman [this message]
2005-11-11 19:35 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-11 21:01 ` David Reitter
2005-11-12 21:19 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-12 21:41 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-12 21:53 ` Miles Bader
2005-11-12 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-12 23:23 ` Chong Yidong
2005-11-12 23:35 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-14 4:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 0:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-11-13 20:54 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-13 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-13 21:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-11-13 23:06 ` David Reitter
2005-11-15 5:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-29 17:11 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-29 18:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-30 4:56 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-30 5:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-30 10:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-12-30 22:11 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-11-14 11:59 ` David Reitter
2005-11-14 14:27 ` Drew Adams
2005-11-15 5:43 ` Richard M. Stallman
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