From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: follow-link not on mouse-face Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:42:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1130042788 20053 80.91.229.2 (23 Oct 2005 04:46:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 04:46:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 23 06:46:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ETXhp-0002mf-Ee for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 06:43:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ETXho-0005nd-Uk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ETXgh-0005OT-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:42:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ETXgg-0005O2-AN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ETXgg-0005Nu-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ETXgg-0003Oe-BE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:42:26 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1ETXgf-0003ND-A1; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 00:42:25 -0400 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:44600 Archived-At: I think part of the reason may have been to help show the boundary between the line number and the line contents. That is why I suggest that each of these parts of the line could highlight separately. I may be mistaken, but my recollection was that people argued that: - Highlighting the whole line was too garish and interfered with readability. Juri mentions flicker too, which is perhaps related. I am not sure we are talking about the same thing. I am talking about mouse-face highlighting. Is mouse-face highlighting of the whole line what people considered "garish"? - People accidentally followed links by clicking mouse-1, trying to set point. Are you saying that the purpose of not doing mouse-highlighting on the line number was so that Mouse-1 on the line number would not visit that occurrence? If so, this has been changed since. Mouse-1 on the line number DOES visit that occurrence, and that's part of the background of the current complaint. Anyway, I am not sure it makes sense to say that you wanted to "set point". Because clicking with Mouse-1 on the occur buffer DOES set point. Then it visits the occurrence in the other window. I argued for highlighting the whole line (for ease of use with the mouse and to help visual alignment, as in using a ruler with a phone book), but doing so with only (mouseover) underlining, to avoid the problem of heavy-handed highlighting (flicker and TOO MUCH NOISE). I am not sure what change you are arguing for. Is the change just a matter of which face is used for the mouse-face highlighting? To use `underline' instead of `highlight'? I see. However, we don't want mouse-1 to be active on the whole line, for other reasons. Does anyone remember what those reasons were? I don't.