From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 3 dots vanish at end of filled line Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200510072121.j97LLI217457@f7.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128917750 21599 80.91.229.2 (10 Oct 2005 04:15:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 06:15:36 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOp4a-0006wB-8S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:15:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOp4Z-0006jN-K2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOp3b-0006Np-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOp3b-0006NJ-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOp3b-0006ND-2F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EOp3b-0003tv-1N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1EOp3a-00014m-7w; Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:14:34 -0400 Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43760 Archived-At: 1. Without space, here are three dots@dots{} Without space, here are three dots... 2. With space, here are three dots @dots{} With space, here are three dots ... 3. Without space, here is a period and three dots.@dots{} Without space, here is a period and three dots.... 4. With space, here is a period and three dots. @dots{} With space, here is a period and three dots. ... I can go along with #2 for an ellipsis within a sentence, but #4 is simply too illogical to be borne. Unfortunately, in a printed manual using DVI, in the third example, the distance between the period and the first ellipsis dot is less than the spacing between the ellipsis dots. The right way to produce output #3 is to use @enddots; it was designed specifically for that case. I presume it does not have that problem of uneven spacing. The ellipses which M-e should stop at are those at the end of a sentence. If people use this convention carefully, they will use four dots. So sentence-end should match four dots, followed by whitespace. In Texinfo mode, it should also treat any use of @enddots{} as the end of a sentence. Can someone try to set that up?