From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:06 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128552360 10840 80.91.229.2 (5 Oct 2005 22:46:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 22:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cs-usenet@arcor.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 06 00:45:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENI1L-0001vo-Kp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:45:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENI1K-0001E9-RG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ENI0b-0000mo-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ENI0Z-0000kp-Gu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ENI0Z-0000km-CH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ENI0Z-0007ec-8N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1ENI0Y-0007kp-0d; Wed, 05 Oct 2005 18:45:06 -0400 Original-To: Jason Rumney In-reply-to: (message from Jason Rumney on Tue, 04 Oct 2005 22:38:08 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43591 Archived-At: Most applications put the tooltip below the mouse. The default for tooltip-y-offset in Emacs is -10, which puts it above the mouse. It seems silly to allow nil as a value equivalent to -10, or 40. What benefit does that complexity provide? I see none. Does anyone else see a reason to keep this? It would be simpler to put the default value in the defcustom directly, and limit this variable to integers. I would like people to try setting the value to 40 and tell me what they think. I'd also suggest to make the tooltip face specify a font height of 75%. Would people please try that, too?