From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: obsolete comment in tool-bar.el Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:53:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200507071915.j67JFZT29961@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200507090235.j692ZER04883@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200507110321.j6B3LgG09526@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1121102946 14794 80.91.229.2 (11 Jul 2005 17:29:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 11 19:29:06 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ds254-00060G-3y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:28:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ds26d-0003vn-MU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:30:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ds1xW-0008Ap-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:20:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ds1xQ-00088l-0z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:20:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ds1uW-00070E-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:17:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ds1ht-0000Bn-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:04:37 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Ds1XN-0008KX-O9; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:53:45 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200507110321.j6B3LgG09526@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 10 Jul 2005 22:21:42 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40784 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40784 This is good, but + These two functions are only meant for options defined in pre-loaded + files, where some variables or functions used to compute the option's + value may not yet be defined. The option normally gets updated in + @file{startup.el}, ignoring the previously computed value. Because of + this typical usage, the value which these two functions compute + normally only matters when, after startup, one unsets the option's + value and then reevaluates the defcustom. To make that really clear, I think you should add: By that time, the necessary variables and functions will be defined, so there will not be an error.