From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: obsolete comment in tool-bar.el Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:20:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120883301 27138 80.91.229.2 (9 Jul 2005 04:28:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 04:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 09 06:28:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dr6wF-0005Pq-5X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 06:27:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dr6xg-0006Pw-RS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:29:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dr6wq-0006G0-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:28:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dr6wb-00067I-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dr6wa-000661-RQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dr6z0-0003bN-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:30:30 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Dr6pa-0007ZL-RO; Sat, 09 Jul 2005 00:20:46 -0400 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40671 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40671 Question: How will users see/detect/understand this behavior? What will they see in "Show initial Lisp expression"? They will see an expression that recomputes the standard value based on whatever conditions are relevant. My approach, like the one Luc's original one, avoids the need to complicate this with fboundp's or condition-case, but someone still needs to determine what all the conditions that affect the proper standard value and write an expression that chooses among them.