From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: theming Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <42CC7021.5050606@student.lu.se> <42CCD07F.5010509@student.lu.se> <42CD1D70.7070601@student.lu.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120798920 7040 80.91.229.2 (8 Jul 2005 05:02:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 05:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se, john@yates-sheets.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 07:01:59 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dqkzd-0008Qv-Dk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:01:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dql11-00048S-Ko for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:03:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqkzZ-0003bh-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:01:38 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dqkyc-0003Ks-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:00:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqkyZ-00038z-Ua for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:00:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dqkk1-0000Am-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Dqkat-0003KY-4v; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:36:07 -0400 Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-reply-to: (message from Juanma Barranquero on Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:31:04 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40617 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40617 Much as I like the idea of prepackaged distributions for normal, non-developer users, the problem I see with many "big" Emacs projects (like TinyTools, CEDET, JDEE, etc) is that they are much of an all-or-nothing. You install one of them, you are no longer in Emacs, but someone's pet idea of what Emacs should look like That is right. In order to add a feature usefully to Emacs, it has to be done in a modular way, so that people can use it with their own choice of other features. If you implement five new modular features, it is easy to add them all to Emacs. But if you implement your own environment that provides the same five features in a monolithic way, we would probably never be able to add any of them, and in the long run it will just be a fork.