From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: etc/refcard.tex update. Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:31:23 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ekacqlok.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87d5pv4khg.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120774001 22868 80.91.229.2 (7 Jul 2005 22:06:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 08 00:06:33 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqeVj-00047U-09 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:06:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqeX6-0003t8-MD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqeSf-0001LR-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 18:03:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DqeLh-0007dU-A7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:56:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DqeLb-0007Ww-Fi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:55:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dqe6r-0001sj-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:40:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Dqdxr-0004a4-Ps; Thu, 07 Jul 2005 17:31:23 -0400 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <87d5pv4khg.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:45:55 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40601 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40601 Aside from the following points, would you please install fixes for the problems you found? 2. In the section `Getting Help' keys `C-x 1' and `C-M-v' in \key{remove help window}{C-x 1} \key{scroll help window}{C-M-v} don't work after typing C-h or F1 that were suggested to type in the beginning of the same section. I don't understand the problem. What is the full scenario? 4. There is `C-h f' key, but no `C-h v'. Let's add C-h v _if there is room_. 5. There is `M-x recover-file', but no `M-x recover-session'. Let's replace recover-file with recover-session. Currently such highly related operations as Search and Replace are described on different refcard pages. Wouldn't it be better to move `Incremental Search' down and place it immediately before `Query Replace'? Having them near each other would be better. However, searching is pretty important, so perhaps moving it later is a change for the worse. I am not sure which way is better overall--it is not self-evident. One needs to look at both versions printed out. Also, moving the sections around is tricky--it can cause pages not to fit. The refcard is not like a manual, where you can add or rearrange material without worrying. You have to check the output after each change.